
Ex-White House Press Secretary Recalls Trump's Oval Office Test About E. Jean Carroll
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Stephanie Grisham also examined former first lady Melania Trump's reported role in her husband's attacks on the advice columnist.
Former Trump White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham has recalled the moment then-President Donald Trump stared her down in the Oval Office and told her — following writer E. Jean Carroll’s accusation that Trump raped her in the 1990s — that, “All you do is deny in these situations Stephanie, you just deny everything all the time, right?”
“I remember specifically feeling like that was a test for me because he stared me down when he asked me that,” Grisham told MSNBC’s Alex Witt on Sunday.
Trump “knew of course I was very close to [then-first lady] Melania [Trump] at the time,” added Grisham, who also served as chief of staff and press secretary to the then-first lady during the Trump White House years.
Republican 2024 front-runner Trump was last year ordered to pay Carroll $5 million after a jury found him liable for sexual abuse and defamation. On Friday, a second jury ordered him to pay Carroll $83.3 million for defamatory comments he made about Carroll when he was president.
Trump’s attacks on Carroll were straight “out of his playbook” of “trying to undermine” anyone who goes against him, said Grisham.













