Former national chief remains hopeful before second trip to Vatican

Former national chief of the Assembly of First Nations Phil Fontaine says he is keeping hope to his heart as he prepares to make a second trip to the Vatican to ask a pope to apologize for the Catholic Church's role in residential schools.

A former national chief of the Assembly of First Nations, Fontaine says he is keeping that feeling close to his heart as he prepares to make a second trip to the Vatican to ask a pope to apologize for the Catholic Church's role in residential schools.

He is resolute that history will not repeat itself.

"What choice do they really have when the issue of unmarked graves became an international story?" Fontaine asks.

"There is incredible pressure on the Catholic Church."